he will kill his half-brother, because murtagh has a chance to change, eragon gave him it in brisingr. but murtagh's not going to change. do you see how he loves the power he has? he's not going to give that up.

where does it say he's being whipped? he's probably actually living like a lord. why would he want to leave that?

still, it'd just be better for the book if eragon and murtagh fight again.....maybe before eragon kills him he'll change...but i hope not. it will mess with eragon's mind more if he kills him.

that may happen....not exactly like that, but maybe galby will kill murtagh....all i know/hope is that murtagh is going to/should die

OK WHO MENTIONED HARRY POTTER???!!!

i dont recon the third riders (arya) egg will hatch till the end of the fourth book so i think it would be down to them. because im a murtagh fan i hope he doesnt die but i think he will. i have a feeling eragon wont kill him tho....i think galby might eventually...tho like sid sed it would be a good twist if murtagh sacraficed himself for eragon

yeah, basically somehow murtagh is going to die. it's going to be interesting to find out how.

basicly ye...but who is the question

if its someone like angela i will laugh

yeah, that would ruin it if it was someone like angela or nasuada. it would be better suspense if it was a really dramatized 3-way battle between galby, eragon, and murtagh

but that would be best for the book if it was eragon....maybe eragon will go all screwy afterwards....lol

you guys are just mean

@arya: no, we're just twisted. lol

in a way....but yeah

i dont think murtagh should die..there i said it!!!

maybe not....but he probably will. there's not a place for him in the story really if he turns good....well, except to sacrifice himself for eragon. but then he's still dying

i'm just saying that he doesn't really have a place in the story except the evil minion of galby

but i think it would be intersting to see,if he turned,how he would

he had a place in the first book...mabye something will happen between him and eragon to change his postion in the book

hmmmm, i just think it'd be better for the book if he dies

mabye...i dont know...lets go ask cp??

i think tat u r all rong, couse eventuly evry1 wil live happy n long lyfez.........



syc, no i think tat u guyz r rong in many areas, couse if brom had not died, wuld eragon have eva met arya, n gotten strong thru tha elve, couse if u s rememba, brom wanted 2 protect eragon form tha forces ov the world (for reasons unknown?????????????), also if he hadnt died mutugh wuld neva have trvelled with them, then he wuld neva have been captured, for brom wuld have most likly have killed him az soon az he had found out who he waz, but az for the fight between eragon n mutuagh, evan if he didnot hid till the end ov the fught he wuld still have been stronger couse eragon admitted it himself, he waz 2 tired 2 defeet him, n mutuagh probly had orders from galby to wait to the end ov the battle to c how the war went, couse if it waz going gud for the empire, i dont think tat galby wuld want hiz "secret weapon" to b reveeled, so if the empire had won the battle of the plains, no one wuld have found out tat he waz evan still alive, so my theory iz tat evan if if eragon waz well rested, he wuld not have been able to stop murtuagh, for 2 reasons, cuz M had the elament of surprise, n galby had given him greet sum ov enrgy, for how wuld he have heeled thorns injury with such a short spell?

so try n beet tat, lolular

hard to beat what you can't understand.




anyway still, murtagh wants to be evil, and evil deserves to die. he had a chance to become good in brisingr, but he chose not to. so now he's going to die

u can lyk so understand wat i rite, its simple, they r under strict instruction to do stuff under their true names, n galby has guven them power byond knowledge (just so ppl no, i have read brisingr just dont want to give away things to ppl tat havent read it yet) n obveyesly, evan tho they can change there true names by changing their ways, whos to say tat there r not spells tat neither ov them them undastand out there tat will kill them if they dont listen, or iz selena (who iz believed 2 b dead) iz not infact dead, but in fact bing held captive by galby, n using her to make him do all his dirty work unda the threat of killing selena? n eragon will neva eva (by the power of infinity) kill his half brother, couse they r 2 similar, u c it all the tyme in books

eragon's going to have to kill murtagh. he may not want to kill him, but he's going to have to....

no way will he kill him, they r 2 similar, n also eragon iz a reluctant killer, he wont kill unless he has to, lolular, so try n explain ur selve betta, my light fingered freend

believe me, if murtagh kills saphira, eragon won't stop until he kills murtagh

yea tats tru, but he will neva kill saphira, couse he iz under strict instructions not to, couse if he was alowd to, he wuld have alreedy killed both eragon n saphira, becouse he IS more powerful, n i think tat tat mutaugh waz a rider b4 he met eragon, couse thorn waz alreedi larger than saphira.

no way he was a rider before he met eragon, because saphira would have been able to sense a rider's presence, just like she sensed brom's presence as a rider.

yeah, basically when eragon and murtagh fight next, i think it would be in eragon's best interest not to have mercy on murtagh

it may be in his best interests but as az sind said eragon is a reluctant killer, i think he will take the high road and capture him then try to free him. he may kill him eventually but it would be because that could not be helped

hello. son ov super evil dragon rider we r talking abt, galby might have put heaps ov spells on thorn, but they wuld not induce fire breathing, u can do many things with magic, but to encourage mental growth iz nigh imposible, just think ov the energy required, its just lyk raising the dead (do not try at home). but there iz a very big chance tat murty was a rider b4 he met eragon, for he had a very suss mental barrier tat waz all 2 suss

uh, wth did you just say? w/e, it doesn't matter



@ arya: yeah, perhaps you're right.

w/e sjlsscsdo

that's considered spam, just so you know. unless you have something relative to say, please don't post.

k, so apart from eragon SHOULD have killed Murty, wat iz ur non spam post?

the fact that my posts are relative to the topic. lol (except for this one, but that doesn't count {lol})

waz lust askin wat ur says on thiz topic r, apart from eragon SHOULD kill Murty, so wat r they?

i don't know what you just said.



but i say a lot of things, like different theories on how eragon will kill murtagh.

okay, eragon wil kill Murty, k, thats a start, anything else?

well we know that Eragon and Murtagh will definitely fight again, and I think that when they do, it would be in Eragon's best interest to kill Mutagen

now how do we no tat for sure?

we don't. what you have to understand is that most of these topics are for speculation, because we don't know because the book hasn't come out yet.

NO THAT'S WRONG Eragon was being choked so how in the world could he say something to kill Murtagh I mean If you have read It that many times then you should know by now. but hay I could be wrong cuz I just read it once.

uh... we're talking about the next book...

R we talking about 4 book?

I can"t tell yet, cause I haven't read 3rd book yet...But when i do, i'll post here again..

well this is about the fight between eragon and murtagh in the 2nd book and what might happen between them in the 4th book.

Ohh....ok then....

I was a it dissapointed with Murtagh big power..He was much stronger than Eragon, and that was shocking...I was expecting the same level of strenght...And the fight was a piece of cake 4 Murtagh....I hope i rememmber well....ceuse i read the book long time ago....

N in 4 book, I can't speculate yet, cause i haven't read 3rd book yet...

yeah, i think CP made it Murtagh too powerful in the 2nd book....but i guess it fit. lol

I was so disapointed when i read chapter about fight....Cause, i don't understand how can Murthag be so powerful... I mean, Eragon was a rider plenty of time...and Murthag was new rider.....i don"t know...it was not logic to me...The only explanation is that is Murthag is so powerful cause Galbatorix was teachin him.....

well it gets explained in book 3.

Ohhh...I can't wait to read the 3rd book... Then i will discuse all topics, but now i can't.....

yeah, read it AQAP. lol

??

As Quick as Possible.



lol

bu sure i will......

yeah at first the fight is a bit disappointing

but after readin Brisingr i see CP was right to make it a challenge for Eragon

still think that Saphira could rip Thorn in two

i can't wait to read Brisingr....I'm oging to buy the book today!
Then i'll see if CP was right, but i am pretty sure he was.....

oh yeah, Saphira could so rip Thorn in two if in Eldest Murtagh hadn't waited until Saphira was tired to fight her, and in Brisingr if he didn't have the Eldunari

What's Eldunari?

it's something in Brisingr. I can't say anymore in this topic

SJ ddddddddduuuuuuuuuuuuudddddddddddddeeeeeeeeee u so could of ruined an V.I.F for maya


Maya hurry up and read the book(so we can contiue on tis topic)

ye hurry up and read it.....

its interesting what happens to thorn in brisingr, i dont think saphira could bring herself to kill thorn

oh, saphira doesn't have the killing problem that eragon has. she'd probably be glad to kill thorn.

will do....i'm buying the book today!

i think if thorn hurt eragon at all saphira would rip Uru Baen apart to kill him,murtagh,galby and ny1 else she seen

BUT i don't think she'll kill thorn unless she has too

yeah, she said that in eragon/eldest. lol

but i'm sure she going to feel alone now gladre is gone and i doubt she wouldnt regret it if she had to kill thorn because she knows there is a very slim chance the third egg may ever hatch

yeah, but she doesn't want Thorn. for a mate, she'll go to another land to find some more dragons.

i don't think lonely is a good enough word to describe her feelings

and remember eragon also lost his mentor and fellow rider he prob feels lonely aswell

yeah, and guess who killed them? murtagh. (well, galby through murtagh). so eragon needs to kill murtagh because of that. if CP doesn't have eragon kill murtagh, i'll be disappointed in him.

not true really because
murtagh is stronger than eragon and if eragon uses a spell murtagh has put a ward up that would block it thus eragon would die because murtagh has more energy.
also eragon has just gone thru a very rough battle and is mind will need time to recall stuff because of all the battle stress

doesn't mean he can't just stick him through with a sword.

Sjl tats bias and i don't lik
Murtagh and thorn don't hav much choice

check out tis link its Brisingr from their point of view
http://www.fanfiction.net/s/4512787/1/Saphiras_Children

believe me, they could change if they wanted to. eragon told them how. the problem is: they like the power, they like not having to hide. and they're not going to change, and they will cause much trouble until eragon kills them, like brom had to kill morzan (but hopefully eragon will do it before saphira dies)

i dont think they want to change either im with sjl

they did not have to kill hrothgar but he did because they like the power
and that Quote wasent even in any of the books i did not see it anywhare in anywhare of the books if it was an excerpt from CP then il be ok with it but you cant say that and then use a quote that wasent in any of the books then it isnt a quote

exactly my point too. well spoken. lol

although i do wish that CP would write four books afer this one on galbitorixes murthags and thorns and the empires point of ve=iew so we could see everything that is going on with them i always thought that would be cool

i still dont think murtagh will die....he may be enjoying the power he has but he still did not gain it with his own permission. galbatorix is using him and in eldest it showed that murtagh was willing to dfy galbatorix at his own suffering.

@Eragon&Arya: yeah, that would be pretty cool.