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at last, someone else agrees with me

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arya is too obvious and there would be no chalenge if she became a rider. Eragon would be obsolete(sp?) and beat anyone she wanted to. also it has been said it is going to be a loooong book. so if it is arya then it probably wouldn't need to be that long


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arya is too obvious and there would be no chalenge if she became a rider. Eragon would be obsolete(sp?) and beat anyone she wanted to. also it has been said it is going to be a loooong book. so if it is arya then it probably wouldn't need to be that long

You've made very good points =) i agree all the way. So if it wasn't arya then who is it? can't be roran because he might be the new king of algaisia. it could be a new character introduced and i doubt this but what if it was a dwarf


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The Dwarves were never included in teh magic. And it will still be a long book when Arya is the rider. There's so much stuff that has to be done it's scary.

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Strangly, I believe it is going to be one of the kings serven't the egg haches to becuase they have access to the egg, which the varden and the elves don't.

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but there is the theory that the egg is in helgrind. then the only servants who have access to it are the razac and no dragon would hatch for one of them.


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u no it can still b a long book and have arya as the new rider if u consider the facts: the egg most likely isnt in the same place as when arya got saphira galby wouldnt b that stupid so most likely its been moved so instead of introducing a new charachter i think hes gonna have this huge long thing about eragon gettin trained better and findin more out about his parents and the riddles and then the whole thing with findin the egg and arya becomin the new rider in time 2 help him beat galby

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Wooow. That's what I think!!! Except it has to happen near mid-book so that Arya and Eragon can build their relationship.

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I agree except roran will be the next rider and he and katrina will hav a child

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yeah, except Roran doesn't have half a chance!

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yes he does, it makes totaly sense. while hunting for the razac he will get an egg and it will hatch

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Have you ever thought that Katrina could be the new rider???

Have you??

I thought aboutt his many times. She is already in Helgrind, which gives her closer access to it. She will become the queen of Alagaesia, alongside Roran as the king, with Katrina as a rider it will help to keep the balance between good, evil and the riders...

There are many other things that can contribute to my theory, but i'm at school and don't have time to explain them.

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well yes i have considered Katrina being a rider but i think that her character has not developed enough to be a major part but i could be wrong. i still hope it is Roran though.


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Roran would make a better king...

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Why would Galbatorix put the egg in the Helgrind when he knows that Eragon will go there??? That is STUPID!!! And Roran would be worse of a rider than Eragon was before his transformation (not including the scar). Arya is the strongest candidate. And it would make things interesting if you know what I mean. and I have given concideration of the .000001% chance that Katrina would be the next rider, but I threw it aside after I found 0 supporting evidence.

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i agree w/ u katrina most likely will b the next queen but i just couldnt find enough evidence 2 support the theory of her bein the new rider

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it seems as if you agree with everything I say! lol!

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i dont roran will be the next rider, I wish they had found a hotter guy to play him though. i had always imagined him as mysterious and hotLOL

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Honestly, screw evidence. Most of us should know that twists in a plot often come totally unexpectedly. You dont actually know that Roran or Katrina has -no- chance of becoming a Rider. The only person who really knows is Christopher Paolini:P
Instinctively, Im thinking Arya... but at the same time I just cant envision her as a Rider, you know? I dont give a toss about the evidence supporting it, that means nothing to me. It could be misleading clues Paolini chucked in there to make us wonder! :twisted:


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yea i do dnt i lol but yea i thought about that 2 but it just makes the most since i just cant imagine katrina bein the new rider cause she would fall n love w/ eragon and then roran would really b mad and i cant imagine it bein roran cause what would that do 2 his and katrinas relationship?

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I don't know...but remember, Katrina was captured by the Ra'zac at the end of Eldest. There's got to be some reason. Well, of course she's indirectly related to Eragon. But doesn't there seem to be something special about everyone who's related to Eragon?

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i think they captured her b/c roran loves her and they no that he nos where eragon iz and the only way 2 make him tlk is 2 take her.....

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it's called bait.

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Why would Galbatorix put the egg in the Helgrind when he knows that Eragon will go there??? That is STUPID!!! And Roran would be worse of a rider than Eragon was before his transformation (not including the scar). Arya is the strongest candidate. And it would make things interesting if you know what I mean. and I have given concideration of the .000001% chance that Katrina would be the next rider, but I threw it aside after I found 0 supporting evidence.


Galbatorax would put the egg in helgrind because he thinks it is impenitrible(sp?). he wouldn't think anyone could get past the razac and that is his own stupidity


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Yeah...I still wonder, though.

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I think the only reason Katrina was captured was to serve as bait for Roran. Sloan knew the Raz'zacs were after Roran and he never liked him. When Katrina chose Roran over her father, I think this was the last straw for Sloan. I imagine he gave this info to the Raz'zac in hopes they would capture Roran and Sloan would have him out of the picture and Katrina back to him. I gather he underestimated both Roran and Katrina. Since their attempt failed they took Katrina and now the Raz'zac do have leverage on Roran. They are EXPECTING him to try and rescue her, so I think they are prepared for the rescue mission and they now know that Eragon will help him.

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would he really do that??? I don't think he would hand her over to those monsters.

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I don't mean he intended the Raz'zac to capture Katrina. I just think his plan backfired. Now Katrina AND him are captives. I think he just saw it as a way of getting Roran out of the picture and guess what, IT DIDN"T work! It's a pity Katrina is stuck in the middle of the crossfire.

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tis a pity. but she is a bit of a boring character. The Inheritance trilogies genere is not romance, suprisingly enough it is actually fantasy / adventure !

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tis a pity. but she is a bit of a boring character. The Inheritance trilogies genere is not romance, suprisingly enough it is actually fantasy / adventure !



We know this, who ever said it was about romance???????

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no one said it word by word. but if you look at lots of the topics, people are just talking about the romance.

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That is true; however, just because the genre is science fiction, it does not mean some romance is not allowed to be included in the storyline. There are tons of sci-fi books where it is included.

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Definetely. Most young adult books (I think it's young adult?) include romance. Teens tend to like it.

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Definetely. Most young adult books (I think they're young adult books?) include romance. Teens tend to like it.

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Just as a side note; this double post is a result of the server being extremely slow. It's been like this since yesterday. So please do not harp on MathDragon.

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:D Thanks AnnieBee! I was bracing myself for that...

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yea i think sloan didnt intend anything bad 2 happen 2 katrina it just kinda happened

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yea i think sloan didnt intend anything bad 2 happen 2 katrina it just kinda happened

Usually when a person goes about making decisions under anger, the decision will back-fire. That's what I think happened to Sloan. (Besides his being as sour and bitter as an over-ripen lemon)


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Nice way to describe Sloan...and I think you're right. He might do something stupid now. Think about it...Sloan has nothing left to lose. And the most dangerous man is one with nothing to lose.

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i think where it says that there will be major change to Nasuada's character, he meant that she'll be the new rider.

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why would cp make her leader of the varden j/ 2 turn around and make her the new rider

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maybe for a shock. if everyone thinks arya will be the new dragon rider, think about how suprised they'll be if it turns out to be nasuada.

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then who will lead the varden? its possible but unlikely that she'll b the next rider

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Amazin i love the theories there really good.. I really wanna know who the third is. In it he says who the rider is will be a bit of a surprise..
How bout this the third ride rcould be Katrina for all we know cause Roran and Eragon go save her so for all we know it culd be her but i rekon Ayra its just a theorie though.

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i doubt it'll b katrina- 2 much of a damsel in distress

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Thats a good point but for all we know it could be true coz we dont no wats gonna happen...tho i do hope its Arya.

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I KNOW that it is Arya. just look at the evidence!

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You dont KNOW. you THINK. There is evidence supporting other people too.


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Can you please tell me some of this "evidence"? Please don't come up with the family excuse, cuz he comes from the wrong side of the family. and PLEASE don't come up with the "good leader" excuse. Arya has done like 10 X more, between carrying Saphira's egg, being the Elven ambasador, and her holding off Durza for as long as she did.

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That answers a few of my quetions and creates 10 times more lol.... Ill just wait for book 3 to come out....BUT ITS SO HARD TO WAIT :(

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Concerning the Quote of the Raven, Bladgen

* Interpreted to mean Eragon and Murtagh are indeed half-brothers

While two <Children> may share two <Parents>
And one <Child> of two <Parents> is certainly one
One <Mother> might be <Mother to> two <Children of different Fathers>.

So this may mean that Eragon's Mother, after leaving Morzan, had a relationship with Brom and Eragon is Brom's son.


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correct me if im wrong but this is all the evidence

1.shes an elf
2.she has green magic
3.shes a good fighter
4.she spent time with dragons(saphiras egg)
Negatives
1.SHES EXTREMELY OLD (underlines 4 times)

RORAN
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3.he has eragons blood
4.he may be able to use magic(maybe when he thinks of katrinalike when eragon thought of the ppl in yazuac to first use magic)

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1.hes quite old

so right now they is was tied so dont make any assumptions its arya cuz it could just as well be roran(even though i still want it to be orik :?

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It can't be Orik, the dwarves weren't included in the contract the dragons made. But I agree on the Roran is rider THEORY, that is a good one that I like and agree on.

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age has nothing to do with it. and you forget BALENCE. another male human and they will ALL be male humans (not counting the dieing Oromis). there needs to be a female elf. and don't forget her green eyes.

blood has nothing to do with it is you can cross that right off. and he can't use magic, so cross that off 2. and another neg. is that he 1. will never become as powerful as Eragon and 2. he is too distracted

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And Arya isn't? So what if they are all male riders, what's wrong with that? So what about them?

You can cross green eyes off your list because I'm not crossing mine off. Neither could Eragon when he wasn't a rider!!! And Arya was born an elf so she had magic right away. He is older than Eragon so most likely he will be as strong as or stronger than Eragon.

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and Arya isn't what? age DOES NOT MATTER!!! CP does not catch me as someone to make it all guys. He's not sexist.

and the CONSTANT REFERRAL of her eyes is the important part. and why would i cross my ligitamate off if u won't cross ur crappy "evidence" (not really evidence) off? her having magic does not matter. but Roran doesn't have magic, so u can't use it as evidence. Roran will NOT be as strong as Eragon because he CAN NOT go through the same transformation and will thusly only ever BE ABLE TO match Eragon's strength as of Eragon's early fights with Vanir, not counting the back ingury (he might not even get up to there).

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And Arya isn't distracted? And yeah it does because wouldn't it be weird if Eragon got together with Arya and she like way older than him? No, because why would he make Arya so strong? I never said he was sexist.

How is that important? Your evidence either, and how is it evidence if CP never said it? Eragon didn't have magic either until Saphira hatched for him. Brom said certain things happen when you become a rider, and that's gaining the ability to use magic. Why would CP pick someone already knows magic? How would you know if he got up there or not?

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and Arya isn't what? age DOES NOT MATTER!!! CP does not catch me as someone to make it all guys. He's not sexist.

and the CONSTANT REFERRAL of her eyes is the important part. and why would i cross my ligitamate off if u won't cross ur crappy "evidence" (not really evidence) off? her having magic does not matter. but Roran doesn't have magic, so u can't use it as evidence. Roran will NOT be as strong as Eragon because he CAN NOT go through the same transformation and will thusly only ever BE ABLE TO match Eragon's strength as of Eragon's early fights with Vanir, not counting the back ingury (he might not even get up to there).


yes it does brom said to eragon in the first book that at age 10 they were selected to go in a line and touch the egg,if it hatched,it hatched if not,it didnt and i beilieve(i wish i still had eragon to look this up) he said to eragon that it was odd because he was over age

and i too agree that cp is not racist however he could have done this w/o wanting too(if roran is the next rider)and im am POSITIVE that roran would be stronger than when eragon had his injury,when eragon DIDNT have his injury,he could hardly match the twins power EVEN WITH SAPHIR and roran kills them with ease


(added on) and correct me if im wrong,arya is stronger than eragon now(or matching him) imagine what she would be like as a rider...shed be like unstoppable and would make it TOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO dang easy to kill galbotorix therefore defeating the thrill of the book...roran is weaker than arya and thats how it SHOULD be beczuse arya is TOO strong

(added again :) )ok and roran cant use magic NOW but while with eragon he can learn and can probobly accesd it by thinking of katrina

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He could easily beat the twins. What are you talking about "he couldn't match them". Murtagh and Eragon were battling up on a cliff like thing and they saw Roran go up to the twins and kill them with his little hammer. K? Read next time, don't skim through.

And also, Did you notice how strong Murtagh was??? Are you joking me Arya wouldn't stand a chance against Galby, Even with a dragon by her side Galby is way stronger than she is.

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umm lol gino i beilieve ur the skimmer....lol i said eragon couldnt match thier magic them and i said roran killed them with ease

(added) and yeah ur right about murtagh but who siad hes evil? he could go abck to being good again...maybe he stays out of the fight and if galby dies the "curse" is lifted.but you are right if murtagh is still evil(btw i just reilized that if a new dragon werere to hatch...by the time it was grown the book would have ended...so the fight has to be maybe in the next yr or so...alot can happen in a year so murtagh might not be evil at the end of the book)

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I didn't understand that part but k, moving on.

Yeah and the Green Egg will probably hatch for Galby. Lets see here for the reasons.
1. First the Varden would have to find the egg.
2. Then they would have to steal the egg, which would be on the likely side of impossible because Galby most likely has the most security in the world around that egg.

3. That could be a whole book it's self. CP cant make 4 books.
4. If the Varden somehow magically got the egg, and a powerful rider emerged from it, then Eragon wouldn't feel like its all lost and hopeless like Soulbum said would happen, then for him to go speak his name at the rock of kmdakdfj;a. And yea I'm sure there are more ways I can point out.

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I didn't understand that part but k, moving on.

Yeah and the Green Egg will probably hatch for Galby. Lets see here for the reasons.
1. First the Varden would have to find the egg.
2. Then they would have to steal the egg, which would be on the likely side of impossible because Galby most likely has the most security in the world around that egg.

3. That could be a whole book it's self. CP cant make 4 books.
4. If the Varden somehow magically got the egg, and a powerful rider emerged from it, then Eragon wouldn't feel like its all lost and hopeless like Soulbum said would happen, then for him to go speak his name at the rock of kmdakdfj;a. And yea I'm sure there are more ways I can point out.


uhh/....first part made sense but how did u not get what i said....IN ERAGON THE BOOK eragon is tested on his magic by the twins,he struggles with it...roran kills teh twins with ease in ELDEST therefore making him as strong as eragon b4 his transformation if he had never gotten the back wound and what is the rock of kmdakdfj;a????are you trying to say kuthain?

so murtagh might go back to being good so u might be able to count murtagh out so 2 human riders vs 1 powerful 1 and two razac...io wonder whod win?(oh and if murtagh goes back to good it would be 3 on 1 lol...thats not that hard...)

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OK, I wish this doesn't sound as awful as the few previous posts. But here it goes.

Every person has his/her way of reading. Each person has the right to his/her interpretation. Every individual has the right to his/her opinion of the books.

What is not anyone's right is to belittle other people's opinion, reading skills or interpretation of the books. What is not right is to try to "cram down other's throats" your views, opinions and theories.

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Thanks Anniebee Ill calm down a bit I guess but I have to say this one thing.

If you remember correctly in the end of Eldest, Eragon and Arya I think it was discovered the fact that When the Twins tested Eragon they were trying to get more knowledge of the Ancient Language.

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thats what im trying to say i was trying to prove a point to imnotcrazy he/she beczuse she said it has to be arya when it could just as well be roran and i have no idea how gino became a part of this but i think hes right about 1 thing and wrong on the other...all i did in the revious post was explain what i emant by my other post

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I agree with you, Roran has a chance like everybody else, but I think he has a more likely one.

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Thanks Anniebee Ill calm down a bit I guess but I have to say this one thing.

If you remember correctly in the end of Eldest, Eragon and Arya I think it was discovered the fact that When the Twins tested Eragon they were trying to get more knowledge of the Ancient Language.


I believe it was at the almost end of Eragon, not Eldest. And it was Eragon who discovered the Twin's purpose for testing him in magic for such a long period of time.

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You double posted again Annibee, and you call yourself a mod.



Your comment is not funny and I do not appreciate it. If you have a doubt about my Moderating capacities, you can do one of two things: ask for references on either site I moderate, or place a complaint at either one!


I did double post and I am sorry for it and I did delete the least important one. However, the manner in which it is phrase is very rude, at least to my percepction!

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currently however...its about how much a chance roran has over arya as being a rider


so far they are tied(check out my post a page or two ago that states the reasons y they are tied)

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No I say Roran is more of the likely suspect, he is more worthy I believe.

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here is my response to what u 2 said b4:

"And Arya isn't distracted? And yeah it does because wouldn't it be weird if Eragon got together with Arya and she like way older than him? No, because why would he make Arya so strong? I never said he was sexist.

How is that important? Your evidence either, and how is it evidence if CP never said it? Eragon didn't have magic either until Saphira hatched for him. Brom said certain things happen when you become a rider, and that's gaining the ability to use magic. Why would CP pick someone already knows magic? How would you know if he got up there or not?"

Arya isn’t distracted!!! She is perfectly set on course. She is even to the extreme where she has shut out all else! Now THAT is not distracted. And now why do you care about them getting together? You were the one who was saying that that was the only reason why people want her to be the next rider! Thusly, you can’t use it for a counter-point. Her being a rider wouldn’t make her physically stronger; it would make her be able to cast more powerful spells. Right now, Eragon can cast more powerful spells than Arya! And it would be sexist if all of the riders were male. That was my point before.

If you don’t see that as important, you have a terrible English teacher. It is called FORSHADOWING!!! It is evidence because it is clearly stated and/or depicted in the book. Her being a great spellweaver makes her need less training, and that is critical because Oromis doesn’t have time to train another rider from scratch. I don’t get what you mean by “up there”, but Eragon was at his strongest while fighting Vanir, and he is a very gifted swordsman. Roran will only possibly measure up to that.



“yes it does brom said to eragon in the first book that at age 10 they were selected to go in a line and touch the egg,if it hatched,it hatched if not,it didnt and i beilieve(i wish i still had eragon to look this up) he said to eragon that it was odd because he was over age

and i too agree that cp is not racist however he could have done this w/o wanting too(if roran is the next rider)and im am POSITIVE that roran would be stronger than when eragon had his injury,when eragon DIDNT have his injury,he could hardly match the twins power EVEN WITH SAPHIR and roran kills them with ease

and correct me if im wrong,arya is stronger than eragon now(or matching him) imagine what she would be like as a rider...shed be like unstoppable and would make it TOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO dang easy to kill galbotorix therefore defeating the thrill of the book...roran is weaker than arya and thats how it SHOULD be beczuse arya is TOO strong

ok and roran cant use magic NOW but while with eragon he can learn and can probobly accesd it by thinking of Katrina”

That does not mean that it is not possible for her to be chosen. AND he never said that Eragon is rare. He said that it is not COSTOMARY, because children are presented at 10 and 20 (for Elves). That does not mean that it is not possible for other aged people to be picked. Roran only killed them by method of surprise. And remember, if Eragon was going against them in combat with swords, he would have won easily also. It was only in magic where he was not as powerful, there being 2 of them.

You ARE wrong. Arya is only as powerful, but she cannot tap the strength of a dragon, like Eragon can. Her becoming a rider would change that so that she could, but it wouldn’t alter her physical strength.

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ok well arya is 100 correct?(or sumwhere along those lines)lets just say she is
ok if elves were presented at 20 that woiuld make her 5 times older than that of norm
roran is almost 20(just for the sake of eay math lets say he is) and 20 divided by 10 is obviously 2

so arya is at MUCH MORE of a disadvantage with age than roran

as for the twins and eragon not being able to top them with TWO VS 1...what u said is incorrect...in the book saphira says herself that she is helping eragon so really...the power of he and eragon should MUCH over power two humans vs a rider and dragon

and as for them getting killed from roran...it was not by suprise...reread eldest when he kills them.it states that roran hides behind a mound of corpses BUT THEY SEE HIM and they turn away...then he kills them

thats not surprise,thats called using tactics which is a LOGICAL thing to do

now im not saying arya is not tactical but roran is too so u cant dock him for no rzn

and in ur sig LOL her eye color is irrelevant to this matter...lol eragons eyes and hair are brown...yet is his dragon brown?eye color has nothing to do with riding a dragon

so in conclusion to this lengthy lengthy disscussion...roran is just as good/better than aryas chance of being a rider

and ur right about the "sexist"thing but thats not necisarrilly being sexist

if u go to alagaesia.com and read teh questions ppl asked cp 1 person asked were there any female riders?and he said yes there were and they were just as plentiful as the males...however that does not mean that they ARE females left this just means that there were both sexes so cp is NOT SEXIST even if roran is chosen...but for now LET THIS PARTICULAR TOPIC DIE unless u have something to "reinforce" your opinion but REFRAIN from making it a flame-war

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there has been NO evidence that there is a disadvantage with age. it only states that children are chosen among, mostly likely because they will be trained from a young age.

that is what i was saying about the twins: Eragon can't beat the 2 of them without Saphira. He only had trouble beating them when only using his own strength.

No. Eragon and Murtagh see him. if you are going to say something like that, please get A DIRECT QUOTE. don't say what you remember.

The eyecolor has nothing to do with riding a dragon, but you seem to not be versed in litterature: it is called FORESHADOWING. CP could have said her eye color only 3 times, but he refers to it time and time again. it is foreshadowing.

it is kinda sexist, but ur right; it isn't directly sexist.

this is NOT a "flame-war". this is a debate, and not even a heated one. and it seems I'm winning, even though u 2 are both working against me! :lol: :lol: :lol:

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lol define winning :) and theree may be a reason arya has green eyes but that doesnt mean sheell be a rider

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Well most of the time if you're younger you'll be more at a disadvantage because age goes with time and time slows you down.

Yes I agree, but if Roran gets a dragon he'll be stronger than what he is now and maybe you'll see how good he can be.

How is that foreshadowing? That isn't much. What spikesniper said, that Eragon's hair was black, and everything and Saphira was BLUE!!

It isn't sexist because CP talks about female riders so it isn't sexist at all.

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well, time hasn't seemed to slow Arya down! and u make a good point: Roran is aging, so he's slowing down. lol. it's funny when u can use other peoples' points against them, even if it isn't the best point, it still works.

He will be stronger, but he won't measure up to Eragon now.

Foreshadowing can be very subtle. And Eragon didn't need any foresadowing! He was the main character from the beginning! it wouldn't be a good book if a secondary-main character got Saphira! lol. like Roran from the start. that would have been boring.

It isn't really THAT sexist. it just seems like there needs to be balance.

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Yeah but Arya is like 84 more years older than Eragon, now that is slow and even if she is fast it's because she is an elf.

Maybe if he went through a ceremony like Eragon's.

I know that!! But Roran isn't getting Saphira, he is getting Greenie. How would that have been boring? Now that I think about it, it kinda sounds interesting.

But there are already have been female riders, he isn't being sexist by mentioning them.

How am I terrible at debating? Maybe it's the other way around.

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lol scarecrow

ne ways eragon sorta needs foreshadowing...when u first read eragon whatd u think the stone was?MOST ppl thought tahts what it was...a stone lol i know i did.

roran is like 20 arya is like 100 and eragon is like 17 by now ok well as i said b4 cp is FOLLOWING SUIT eragon is human male so is murtagh and galby(not counting oromis cuz hes criple) and if rorans chosen HE WOULD BE TOO

and roran is more liekly becuz how is arya sposed to obtain the egg?roran and eragon go to helgrind for a fact be cuz of course they are hunting the razac(where the egg might be stored,either there or urubaen(but not there becuz by the tinme they get to urubaen it will have a HUIGE fight seen so greenie wouldnt have time to hatch)) So my conclusuion is that roran is the better chance

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you are thinking aging for HUMANS. Elves have eternal youth and they only age in their experience. Also, what is ur def. of "slow"?

he CAN'T go through the blod-oath ceremony.

How? All he has been doing is going around Alagaesia and mopeing about Katrina. He's just going to be able to do it faster now if he's on dragon-back. u have no clue what foreshadowing is, do you? You have to admit the possibility of her eyes being foreshadowing. HEY! I just thought of something that corresponds to English class... like in Ancient Greek culture, the eyes are said to be a window to the soul. And Arya's are described as deep and i think sparkling.

he isn't sexist by mentioning, but it still doesn't look good if it is all males.


I KNEW it was an egg. And that isn't foreshadowing. He HAD it.

He is NOT following suit. That is pretty bad evidence. what makes you THINK that he MIGHT? u only came up with it as fuel.

Again, the egg does not have to be in the helgrind, and even if it is, he doesn't have to hatch it. Eragon will fly Katrina and Roran back to Surda and then he will take the egg to Ellesmera.

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Slow-age, slow, being at a disadvantage.

Maybe something like it. Or the elves have a way of giving him more power.

Roran is more likely because we've figured a way for him to get the egg. Have you? He hasn't been mopeing, he's been taking action and not just saying stuff. Ok, what's that got to do with Arya?

How does that not look good? I'm not saying that it'll be all males clashing against each other, Arya isn't excluded, she is still a formidable oppenent for Galby.

Why would he take it back if it has already hatched for Roran? I say that he takes all three of them back to Ellesmera once the egg has hatched (for Roran).

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Roran can not be the next Rider because 1. he is a male, and Saphira with fall in love with the green dragon, Eragon will fall in love with the green dragon, but he will have to shift his attention to the dragons Rider, and the 2 Riders will fall in love, and if the other Rider is a male....(LEFT OUT OF POST FOR OBVIOUS REASONS)
2. He already has a love for Katrina, And does Roran actually want a dragon? does he actually want to be a Rider? I think he will be a magician because he can sense when some ones in his mind (about the chapter before Eragon fights Murtagh)
3. He is not an elf. Elves are more likely choosen because they are also creatures of magic. but if you go into statistics, he could be chosen. but it would be kinda....(LEFT OUT OF POST FOR OBVIOUS REASONS)

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Again, the egg does not have to be in the helgrind, and even if it is, he doesn't have to hatch it. Eragon will fly Katrina and Roran back to Surda and then he will take the egg to Ellesmera.

thats a quote from imnc

ok to that i have to ask then wherw would it be?
i already gave reason for it not being in urubaen and those are the two places that galbotorix has the ability to lock up real well...so its in helgrind(90% on it being in helgrind)

Roran can not be the next Rider because 1. he is a male, and Saphira with fall in love with the green dragon, Eragon will fall in love with the green dragon, but he will have to shift his attention to the dragons Rider, and the 2 Riders will fall in love, and if the other Rider is a male....(LEFT OUT OF POST FOR OBVIOUS REASONS)
2. He already has a love for Katrina, And does Roran actually want a dragon? does he actually want to be a Rider? I think he will be a magician because he can sense when some ones in his mind (about the chapter before Eragon fights Murtagh)
3. He is not an elf. Elves are more likely choosen because they are also creatures of magic. but if you go into statistics, he could be chosen. but it would be kinda....(LEFT OUT OF POST FOR OBVIOUS REASONS)

ok thats a quote from orik...ok good point on one..three (if u read my previous posts)doesnt make sense and two what makes uy think arya wants a dragon?

shoot id think she WOULDNT want a dragon because of her having to spend time with eragon(which she deosnt want to)

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Her age does not give her a disadvatage at all! If anything, she has grown better!

If there was a way, then it would have happened to Eragon b4 the bollod-oath cerimony. and ERAGON is the dragons' last chance, not Roran, even if he does (which I'm not saying he will), he is not their last hope; Eragon is, so they won't make him more powerful.

You haven't figured out ANYTHING. You just made up something that has no factual basis and is not even hinted to in the other books! And if you consider that "figuring out a way", then her infultrating the castle with Eragon is just as valid, OR the egg can be in the Helgrind and it is brought to her to coury, and it hatches for her. I'm not agreeing that it is there, but it is a possibility; ANYTHING is a possibility! And he is moping on the inside. He is way too distracted and is too focused on one thing: getting Katrina back. i dunno how that corresponds, but it is kinda cool, cuz her eyes are deep and beautiful. it was just a thought.

It doesnt' look good cuz it makes him LOOK kinda sexist. And it basically will come down to just riders dukeing it out. And ur right! she WILL be involoved! :D

It WOULDN'T hatch for Roran, so thusly he will take it back to Ellesmera for Arya to coury.


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that is all i have to say to you Orik...

spikesniper, the reason has no validity because 2 people could infultrate the castle.

lol. she isnt opposed to spending time with him, it is just that she does not feel comfortable ALONE with him because she thinks he will make a move on her. She wouldn't refuse a dragon and once it is hatched, she doesn't have much of a choice, does she? She has sworn to help the dragons, so if being a rider would be the best way to fufill that duty, she would accept it.

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Galby KNOWS that Eragon knows where the helgrind is and he can find their lair. PLUS he will want to go there. y would you put it where your enemy WILL go???

it IS Arya's sworn duty to the elven race AND she would be a better help than Roran would be. They have to get the egg SOMEHOW.


very good point scare crow lol its an OBVIOUS TRAP lol but 1 that eragon roran and saphira can fight out.y would it be in urubaen(PLZ PLZ read my other posts on y it isnt,dont wanna have to state em again)But for those who HAVENT read my post here we go

i said it wont be in uruaben becuz by the time eragon GOES to urubaen it would be the last chapters of the book(where a massive fight seen would take place)and there would be no time for "greenie"to hacth and be given to roran/arya

and u are wrong imnc it was aryas dutie to ferry SAPHIRAS EGG between the varden and du welden varden therefore making that statement false

any objections my friends?

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Yeah I know they can fight it out that's why Roran can get the egg and Katrina. Yes, I think it more safe with the Ra'zac they can keep a close eye on it.

I agree on that too, if they go to Urubean it would be a massive war fight and it would be over before the green dragon egg could hatch.

I have no objections, I agree fullheartely.

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He can go there with just Arya and Saphira and infultrate the castle, just the 2 of them. There doesn't need to be a big fight.

her duty will be again to ferry the new egg. it isn't like there will be someone better.

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I'MNOTCRAZY wrote:
He can go there with just Arya and Saphira and infultrate the castle, just the 2 of them. There doesn't need to be a big fight.

her duty will be again to ferry the new egg. it isn't like there will be someone better.


...how bout eragon...LOL i eman he could do it even faster than an elf lol he has a dragon

...wow how anticlimactic on cps part if he does that...lol he wouldnt so yes there HAS to be a big fight seen again hes following suit lol if he didnt put a fight seen fans would be very...VERY mad

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no no no no no!!!!! they will first infultrate the castle, then LATER they will have a battle.

Eragon will be too busy 2 coury it. and he'll probably go to Arya first with it.... well.... after Oromis sees it. Who better to hold onto it than the former egg-courier? She has taken care of an egg b4!

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inflitrate an impenetrable castle?

lol if it IS in urubaen...lol...u know what that would be like....ok take an open falme and drop a piece of paper in it...lol the paper is eragon/arya....it would be suicide is what im tryin to say lol

and why would galby let them get away? he can use magic and mrutagh will be there...lol he can make them stop and steal the egg back lol...no its not in urubaen i have so much evidence its over 99 percent...the only rzn im saying it might be in urubaen is becuz galby could watch over it...thats the only plus compared to about 20 negs :/

so get it outta ur head that its in urubaen...lol im notsyaing it cantbut i am saying it wont lol

now roran vs arya is different...theya re about tied with the whole facts thing and rorans makes more sense to me and appearantly to u its arya lol

and i know arya doesnt hate eragon but she does not want to be near him alone...which they would be except for saphira and "greenie"(if it hatches for arya(which personally i dont think will happen but hey,thats me 8) )) ne ways plz change ur sig lol i ccan post my "proof" of it being roran lol but im not becuz it isnt proof...im just making it seen HIGHLY POSSIBLE not it HAS to be roran im just making him have a GOOD CHANCE lol

quick ? how do u say arya?i know its in the guide but is it are ee uh or are yuh?

i say the second version it just sounds more...fitting....like i call saphira saph eye ruh not suh fear uh

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it IS possible. it just makes more sense that Galby would keep it in his castle where it is held in an "impenetrable" fortress.

Eragon has decided not to make any more moves on her, so she has no reason to not be around him. and I'm not changing my sig!!! i can't fit any more... and really, he doesn't have much of a chance. Arya is just a better candidate. experienced elf or inexperienced human??? hmm... not much of a contest there!!! :D :D :D

R E uh, like u said. i use to pronounce it ar rae uh, but then i looked in the back... now it seems odd to pronounce it the way I did.

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I'MNOTCRAZY wrote:
it IS possible. it just makes more sense that Galby would keep it in his castle where it is held in an "impenetrable" fortress.

Eragon has decided not to make any more moves on her, so she has no reason to not be around him. and I'm not changing my sig!!! i can't fit any more... and really, he doesn't have much of a chance. Arya is just a better candidate. experienced elf or inexperienced human??? hmm... not much of a contest there!!! :D :D :D

R E uh, like u said. i use to pronounce it ar rae uh, but then i looked in the back... now it seems odd to pronounce it the way I did.


ok say it that wasy as fast as u can,thats how is say it :). ok now for the matter at hand...i told u already y arya would make it TOO easy...roran and eragon kill the rzac so they r out of the picture...then its just (arya)/(roran) eragon vs galby (murtagh)

i use the () over murtagh becuz he can go back to good sumhow ok i mean an all human fight would make sense...arya just doesnt fit...shes like 1 of those pictures where it has three that make sense and 1 that deosnt and it asks which 1 doesnt belong?

AND if murtagh goes good b4 galby dies...it would be 3 on 1

(arya)/(roran) +murtagh+eragon = slaughtering galby

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