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ONCE AND FOR ALL!!!!!!!!! orik cant be a rider
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SIEGEMASTER
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ONCE AND FOR ALL!!!!!!!!! orik cant be a rider
I'M GOING TO SAY THIS ONCE AND FOR ALL!!!! I'VE READ SO MANY TIMES THAT ORIK OR SOLEMBUM OR MAUD OR SOME URGAL WILL BE THE NEXT RIDER. AND IT MAKES ME VERY ANGRY.
No offense, BUT DO YOU PEOPLE READ THE BOOKS AT ALL!!!! DWARVES WERN'T PART OF THE SACRED OATH PACT DEAL HAND SHAKE BONDING THINGA-MABOB-DODAD, SO THEY CANT BE RIDERS. besides that is the relativly small fact that THEY HATE DRAGONS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! THAT IS IMPORTANT PEOPLE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! SO NO ONE ELSE EVER SAY IT AGAIN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
AND ANNIEBEE, IF YOU SAY THAT USING ALL CAPS MAKES IT LOOK LIKE I'M SHOUTING, WELL, THAT'S BECAUSE I AM SHOUTING
any one else have anything to add?
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June 17th, 2007, 8:20 pm |
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Merala Anawan
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Re: ONCE AND FOR ALL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Not how I would have put it but yes, your right. Dwarves can't be riders for all the reasons you mentioned. I totally agree with you.
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June 17th, 2007, 8:35 pm |
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i-luv-saphira
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Re: ONCE AND FOR ALL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
o, i must disagree with you on that count. aye, dwarves were not part of the sacred oath, but it can change. they did it with humans right? so who's to say that Eragon and Saphira can't change it further to include dwarves? Orik would be a nice surprise to become the third Rider and I would think it wiser that CP include that twist in the books to make it far more interesting.
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June 17th, 2007, 10:10 pm |
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SIEGEMASTER
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Re: ONCE AND FOR ALL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
yeah, but orik doesnt' even want to be a rider, he liked flying, but sayed he prefered having his feet on the ground.
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June 17th, 2007, 10:48 pm |
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EbrithilArya
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Re: ONCE AND FOR ALL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I completely agree I mean why would they change the oath if they aren't even certain any of the dwarves are suitable to the dragon?
Besides in my opinion, Orik would look silly riding a dragon
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June 18th, 2007, 1:34 pm |
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Scarecrow
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Re: ONCE AND FOR ALL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I've been trying to get this through some people's thick heads. About time somebody did something. And I totally agree with you and I don't think Eragon can change the deal that the elves and the dragons made. I think the only ones allowed to do that will be the ones who made it.
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June 18th, 2007, 3:00 pm |
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Re: ONCE AND FOR ALL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I totally agree as well.
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June 18th, 2007, 3:06 pm |
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i-luv-saphira
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Re: ONCE AND FOR ALL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
but you can't discount the possibility that Eragon and Saphira can change the oath so dwarves are included. I mean, it would make the series so much more interesting if candidates for Riders were expanded to a larger audience.
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First beware Pride, lest belief in ones might--Has you discount the foeman who is braving your sight.
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June 22nd, 2007, 5:26 pm |
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Re: ONCE AND FOR ALL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
i-luv-saphira wrote: but you can't discount the possibility that Eragon and Saphira can change the oath so dwarves are included. I mean, it would make the series so much more interesting if candidates for Riders were expanded to a larger audience. yes you can, because it needs more than just those two TO CHANGE HOW DRAGONS WORK! It's gonna take a lot of energy AND valuable time.
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June 22nd, 2007, 9:10 pm |
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SIEGEMASTER
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Re: ONCE AND FOR ALL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
thank u, and i'll say again orik wouldn't really want to be a rider, wat kind of rider woud cp be if he had orik say he liked walking more and then he had orik become a rider?
and orik is untrained, which is my biggest argument for why arya should be the next rider: shes trained. a massive army is camped on surdas doorstep, and eragon still has 2 find the last egg, find the rider, wait for the egg to hatch, finish his training, and a new rider has to train, unless its arya or a trained magic user, and galby and murtagh would sit and wait like tame kitties that whole time, they'll be doing something, and think of how long it took eragon to train.
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June 22nd, 2007, 9:27 pm |
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Rideress Odette
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Re: ONCE AND FOR ALL!!!!!!!!! orik cant be a rider
But, don't dwarves hate flying? If they were added, the population would be reluctant.
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June 25th, 2007, 5:49 pm |
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pumpkin head
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Re: ONCE AND FOR ALL!!!!!!!!! orik cant be a rider
but what if the dwarves made a new vow. would that not allow the dwarfs tocancel the oath that was made.
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June 25th, 2007, 7:18 pm |
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Ryempas
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Re: ONCE AND FOR ALL!!!!!!!!! orik cant be a rider
It would, but again: DWARVES DO NOT WANT TO BE RIDERS!!!!!
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June 25th, 2007, 8:33 pm |
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SIEGEMASTER
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Re: ONCE AND FOR ALL!!!!!!!!! orik cant be a rider
good, someone sees my point, which, by the way, ive said probably three times and isn't an overly hard concept
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June 25th, 2007, 9:55 pm |
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Ryempas
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Re: ONCE AND FOR ALL!!!!!!!!! orik cant be a rider
I shouldn't think so, but I think some people argue just for the sake of arguing.
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June 25th, 2007, 9:59 pm |
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flamedragon
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Re: ONCE AND FOR ALL!!!!!!!!! orik cant be a rider
i agree it would be really weaird to have orik say he would rather have his feet on the ground then have him as a rider i mean it would be overly suprising
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June 25th, 2007, 10:01 pm |
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Re: ONCE AND FOR ALL!!!!!!!!! orik cant be a rider
well IT CAN'T HAPPEN ANYWAYS AND ERAGON ISN'T GOING TO WASTE HIS TIME MAKING IT ABLE TO HAPPEN ANYWAYS!!! there. i said it.
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June 26th, 2007, 3:42 am |
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Scarecrow
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Re: ONCE AND FOR ALL!!!!!!!!! orik cant be a rider
Yeah, it'll take alot of dealings and more dragons and riders to break the deal in the first place wouldn't it?
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June 26th, 2007, 4:12 am |
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I'MNOTCRAZY
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Re: ONCE AND FOR ALL!!!!!!!!! orik cant be a rider
yeah. I was thinking that too, unless I already posted it some other time.
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June 26th, 2007, 4:17 am |
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Scarecrow
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Re: ONCE AND FOR ALL!!!!!!!!! orik cant be a rider
I don't know if you did or not.
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June 26th, 2007, 4:17 am |
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I'MNOTCRAZY
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Re: ONCE AND FOR ALL!!!!!!!!! orik cant be a rider
i'm actually pretty sure i did, if i'm not mistaken. but let's get back on topic, shall we?
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June 26th, 2007, 4:28 am |
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SIEGEMASTER
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Re: ONCE AND FOR ALL!!!!!!!!! orik cant be a rider
sure
i put this here to make people understand a few things, and it seems most agree with what i said. i wonder why *whispers* "maybe because it makes sense." it wouldn't make sense for them to change it for orik to be a rider, and those who disagree, just read all the pages and you'll understand
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June 26th, 2007, 5:07 pm |
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spikesniper
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Re: ONCE AND FOR ALL!!!!!!!!! orik cant be a rider
hey man...*flips hair*(oh no,im gonna have to go hippie on ya!)dont judge the dwarves just cuz orik doesnt like flyin,i mean,theyre free spirits like the wind bro!
k hippie moment over,having said that,i would like to say that how friggin awesome would it be to see these 4 foot little munchkins riding huge dragons? and dwarves are great fighters...even though very few know magic,and they dont have much time,their incredible strength and stamina will easily overpower enemies...they may not be as quick or senseful(?)as elves but im sure a dwarf could easily hack through enemies with the power of a dragon on his side...so dont count out dwarves
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Re: ONCE AND FOR ALL!!!!!!!!! orik cant be a rider
I agree with you 2
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June 28th, 2007, 1:23 pm |
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spikesniper
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Re: ONCE AND FOR ALL!!!!!!!!! orik cant be a rider
h/o agree with who?
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June 28th, 2007, 1:24 pm |
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Ryempas
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Re: ONCE AND FOR ALL!!!!!!!!! orik cant be a rider
No. The dwarves don't want to be a part of the pact between the elves and the dragons. They believe that the spirit exists beyond death and if they become a rider, their beliefs might blind them because they won't want to believe what their magic is telling them. Their progress would be too slow to help Eragon, so the dwarves won't be Dragon Riders.
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June 28th, 2007, 8:10 pm |
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spikesniper
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Re: ONCE AND FOR ALL!!!!!!!!! orik cant be a rider
lol...take a battle seasoned dwarf like orik,pit him against the people who almost destroyed his homeland,give him a dragon,and i believe his instincts AND magic will tell him to kick some arse!(lol go dwarvish)
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SIEGEMASTER
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Re: ONCE AND FOR ALL!!!!!!!!! orik cant be a rider
that might be true that theyd be good fighters but one fact remains:
almost all dwarves hate dragons, they've had wars with them before, and just dont like them. at all
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June 29th, 2007, 3:54 pm |
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spikesniper
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Re: ONCE AND FOR ALL!!!!!!!!! orik cant be a rider
true...but look at the elves...they were slaughtering the dragons in their sleep...they made peace and forgave them...and the only dwarfs that hate dragons havent met 1...like orik ahs met saphira and he doesnt hate her...i doubt that that problem cant be resolved
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June 29th, 2007, 7:06 pm |
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SIEGEMASTER
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Re: ONCE AND FOR ALL!!!!!!!!! orik cant be a rider
the elves and dragons made up cus they couldn't take another war without wipping each other out, the dwarves could, and they never like dragons and likely never will. galby terorizing their citys didnt' help
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June 29th, 2007, 8:50 pm |
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spikesniper
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Re: ONCE AND FOR ALL!!!!!!!!! orik cant be a rider
yes but mi pretty sure orik wouldnt mind having a dragon...he likes saphira...maybe part of the reason cp made him fly on saphira was to get him ready for a dragon of his own
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Re: ONCE AND FOR ALL!!!!!!!!! orik cant be a rider
well, it's still not going to happen. It CANT and the way it can be made possible WON'T HAPPEN. so if he would like a dragon is irrelevant.
_________________ taking someone's dragon for a joyride... not one of my better ideas "I suppose I won't see you for a while, so farewell, best of luck, avoid roasted cabbage, don't eat earwax, and look on the bright side of life!" - Angela [/color]
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Re: ONCE AND FOR ALL!!!!!!!!! orik cant be a rider
SIEGEMASTER wrote: I'M GOING TO SAY THIS ONCE AND FOR ALL!!!! I'VE READ SO MANY TIMES THAT ORIK OR SOLEMBUM OR MAUD OR SOME URGAL WILL BE THE NEXT RIDER. AND IT MAKES ME VERY ANGRY.
No offense, BUT DO YOU PEOPLE READ THE BOOKS AT ALL!!!! DWARVES WERN'T PART OF THE SACRED OATH PACT DEAL HAND SHAKE BONDING THINGA-MABOB-DODAD, SO THEY CANT BE RIDERS. besides that is the relativly small fact that THEY HATE DRAGONS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! THAT IS IMPORTANT PEOPLE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! SO NO ONE ELSE EVER SAY IT AGAIN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
AND ANNIEBEE, IF YOU SAY THAT USING ALL CAPS MAKES IT LOOK LIKE I'M SHOUTING, WELL, THAT'S BECAUSE I AM SHOUTING
any one else have anything to add? I have to add that it's very rude to shout at people. It does not suit you and the wonderful SIEGEMASTER, I know. People are entitled to their own opinion as outlandish as it may seem to us, who have a clear understanding of the book and the written word!
So if Orik can or not be a Rider is not a reason to shout. It seems as if you are challenging me!!!Shame on you SIEGEMASTER", I am so disappointed!
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June 30th, 2007, 3:56 am |
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spikesniper
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Re: ONCE AND FOR ALL!!!!!!!!! orik cant be a rider
SIEGEMASTER wrote: the elves and dragons made up cus they couldn't take another war without wipping each other out, the dwarves could, and they never like dragons and likely never will. galby terorizing their citys didnt' help yes exactly...the dwarves have had too many encounters with galbys men terrorizing them...they too wouldnt last long if the dragon were attacking them...i think orik would be a perfect "spokesman" much liek the first eragon of the elven race...it would instead be orik of the dwarven race.He's had encounters with dragons b4 and i dont think hed be unappreciative of a dragon,and i bet the dwarves too regret what they did with the dragons,as the elves regretted their wars
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SIEGEMASTER
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Re: ONCE AND FOR ALL!!!!!!!!! orik cant be a rider
sorry annie, i had to vent, because i get tired of people saying stupid stuff that cant happen, and if just telling them doesnt work, i have to beat them over the head with the facts.
and i said that cus one time you told me not tho type in caps cause its like shouting so i said that cus i was shouting.
they dwarves, being long lived, keep grudges and oaths for a very long time, and even if its been a while since the dragons did stuff, they still don't get along well
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Re: ONCE AND FOR ALL!!!!!!!!! orik cant be a rider
"Were dwarves ever a part of this spell?" Asked Eragon. No, and that is why there has never been a dwarf Rider. They do not care for dragons, nor we for them, and the found the idea of being joined with us repellent. Perhaps it is fortunate that they did not enter into our pact, for they have escaped the decline of human and elves.
It is clear in the book that there has never been a dwarf Rider and why. Since they never entered the pack, it is logical to assume the can never be one!(Eldest, end of page 438-9)
I have not a clue where did the idea of Orik becoming a rider stems from; just because enjoyed the flight back to the Varden does not automatically qualifies him to be one. Besides there has to be a "joining" into the pack with dragons, elves and humans; otherwise it does not work!
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Re: ONCE AND FOR ALL!!!!!!!!! orik cant be a rider
SIEGEMASTER wrote: sorry annie, i had to vent, because i get tired of people saying stupid stuff that cant happen, and if just telling them doesnt work, i have to beat them over the head with the facts.
and i said that cus one time you told me not tho type in caps cause its like shouting so i said that cus i was shouting.
they dwarves, being long lived, keep grudges and oaths for a very long time, and even if its been a while since the dragons did stuff, they still don't get along well ahh u forget,my friend,when arya killed that dying bird(i think it was then),orik mentions something about how elves never change,and eragon asks well dwarves dont change either,right? orik replies yes but stone changes,given time.(NOT a direct quote...dont even know if thats where it was,but it happend sumthing like this) keywords there are STONE and TIME stone(dwarves) change over time...which they have had PLENTY of...maybe cp put that quote in as hinting that orik is gonna be the new rider and as to u,annie,i just dont like it when ppl have SOME evidence that it cant happen and theres some that it can...and ppl automatically rule it out...i honestly dont really want orik as the next rider...but im fighting for the fact that its POSSIBLE
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Re: ONCE AND FOR ALL!!!!!!!!! orik cant be a rider
Hey S/S, you don't need to apologize for your opinion. That's what this place is all about!
In regards to "stone," "change," and dwarves. I can understand your line of thought. What held me down from that thought is the fact that there are, how many dwarven clans? And how many of those clans, by the end of Eldest, still resented dragons? For the different ones in Tarnag showed no love for neither Eragon as a Rider, much less for Saphira as a dragon. But then again, that was my perception.
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Re: ONCE AND FOR ALL!!!!!!!!! orik cant be a rider
Quote: spikesniper Posted: Sat Jun 30, 2007 4:34 pm
Re: ONCE AND FOR ALL!!!!!!!!! orik cant be a rider SIEGEMASTER wrote: sorry annie, i had to vent, because i get tired of people saying stupid stuff that cant happen, and if just telling them doesnt work, i have to beat them over the head with the facts.
and i said that cus one time you told me not tho type in caps cause its like shouting so i said that cus i was shouting.
they dwarves, being long lived, keep grudges and oaths for a very long time, and even if its been a while since the dragons did stuff, they still don't get along well
ahh u forget,my friend,when arya killed that dying bird(i think it was then),orik mentions something about how elves never change,and eragon asks well dwarves dont change either,right? orik replies yes but stone changes,given time.(NOT a direct quote...dont even know if thats where it was,but it happend sumthing like this)
keywords there are STONE and TIME
stone(dwarves) change over time...which they have had PLENTY of...maybe cp put that quote in as hinting that orik is gonna be the new rider
and as to u,annie,i just dont like it when ppl have SOME evidence that it cant happen and theres some that it can...and ppl automatically rule it out...i honestly dont really want orik as the next rider...but im fighting for the fact that its POSSIBLE Then why are you fighting for it? It's not going to happen, the treaty that was made between the dragons and elves was said that only elves could be rider then they included humans, no dwarves. Dwarves will never be rider, they hate riding anyway. Why would something be allowed to do something if they hate it? I don't think even if there were dwarf riders that they would still want to be one.
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Re: ONCE AND FOR ALL!!!!!!!!! orik cant be a rider
lol did u read my reason for saying that?
i said i want people to understand its quite POSSIBLE...personally if i had a choice,id choose roran,but thats me....neways
to u annie:im quite sure the people were only afraid of eragon...the last rider they had had almost killed them all and is very evil...id be scared if iw as there...but i think eragon has showed them that riders are nothing to be afraid of,and most should be trusted.
now yes there was that clan...i forgot what it was but they were the ppl who threw the ring at eragon...if my hunch is right,theyll play an important role in the next book...but i think they held that deep hatred because of galby...oh and i think there were 13 dwarven clans
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Re: ONCE AND FOR ALL!!!!!!!!! orik cant be a rider
We agree then on something!!! I too wish Roran would be the next Rider!!! Personally, the only elf I like is Oromis!!
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Re: ONCE AND FOR ALL!!!!!!!!! orik cant be a rider
YAY!!!!(does a dance) me 2 i dont liek elfs (cept of course for oromis) and yeah i want roran to be the rider too...wewt!
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Re: ONCE AND FOR ALL!!!!!!!!! orik cant be a rider
I find the elves so cold and detached. I don't like them at all!
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Re: ONCE AND FOR ALL!!!!!!!!! orik cant be a rider
yeah i think they mull over the past too long...they cant learn to let it go
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Re: ONCE AND FOR ALL!!!!!!!!! orik cant be a rider
spikesniper wrote: yeah i think they mull over the past too long...they cant learn to let it go And they are somewhat obnoxious. No scratch that, VERY OBNOXIOUS.... You can be proud of your race without having to be obnoxious!
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Re: ONCE AND FOR ALL!!!!!!!!! orik cant be a rider
yeah and have u noticed how self conceived(dunno if thats the right word,might be conceded)i think they care too much about how they look and stuff...dwarves are total opposites...thats y i like them
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Re: ONCE AND FOR ALL!!!!!!!!! orik cant be a rider
lol!! The word you are looking for is "conceited." They are, as in Hermione's word; "...so full of themselves."
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Re: ONCE AND FOR ALL!!!!!!!!! orik cant be a rider
so it was the 2nd 1 and i just spelled it wrong lol
(havent we been of topic for like 8 posts?)
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Re: ONCE AND FOR ALL!!!!!!!!! orik cant be a rider
Yep and we are getting off topic.
I do know that at least the Dwarves allow some of their emotions to come forward, but the elves are very very controlled.
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Re: ONCE AND FOR ALL!!!!!!!!! orik cant be a rider
yay Annie join the club! Go Roran!
anyway i agree a dwarf wont be a rider itt would be really stupid and if it does happen im burning the book instantly. ok maybe not but still i would be mad.
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Re: ONCE AND FOR ALL!!!!!!!!! orik cant be a rider
well if arya is the rider and its named empire,im gonna show up at cps house and yell at him lol
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Re: ONCE AND FOR ALL!!!!!!!!! orik cant be a rider
yeah me too.even more if orik is a rider or elva.
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Re: ONCE AND FOR ALL!!!!!!!!! orik cant be a rider
OK People we have a FREE BOOK 3 TOPIC here: viewtopic.php?f=8&t=5183&hilit=
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Re: ONCE AND FOR ALL!!!!!!!!! orik cant be a rider
i think roran will be a rider
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Re: ONCE AND FOR ALL!!!!!!!!! orik cant be a rider
you're completely and totally right. Dwarves and whatever else you mentioned can't be riders. And it drives me crazy that anyone who calls themselves a fan of the Inheritance Trilogy would say that. P.S. I like the screaming sections.
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Re: ONCE AND FOR ALL!!!!!!!!! orik cant be a rider
Dragonrider you are way off topic. This about dwarves not being able to be riders not who is going to be the next rider sorry. And no dwarves can't be riders because of the deal that was made.
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Re: ONCE AND FOR ALL!!!!!!!!! orik cant be a rider
more than just dwarves being unable to be riders, just stupid ideas you've seen and want to tear to shreds with logic. your logic that is contributing to the comunal shredding of dumb ideas is good.
my strongest supporting idea of arya being a rider is that shes trained, and roran or others arn't, and as long as it took eragon to train, do they have time to train a new rider, oromis is almost dead.
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Re: ONCE AND FOR ALL!!!!!!!!! orik cant be a rider
But Eragon can train if he gets his full training, and we are off topic.
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Re: ONCE AND FOR ALL!!!!!!!!! orik cant be a rider
but, dwarves were never part of the spell-that-bonded-dragons-with-elves-and-humans!!! so how can he be a rider? since i personally think that he will become king, he will probably have enough to worry about besides saving the world!
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Re: ONCE AND FOR ALL!!!!!!!!! orik cant be a rider
lol, some of you guys are really heating up others huh? I agree though that Orik will not be a candidate for the last egg to be a dragon rider. Like everyone has repeated and said, dwarves were not part of the Blood-Oath ceremony. Yes they can be added, but why haven't they? If Hrothgar and many of the dwarves kings before him had wanted to be part of the oath, why didn't they join it earlier? Number one reason is they hate dragons. If you don't remember, dragons hunted dwarves... Centuries of hate built up and I really doubt the dwarves would want to become "one" with a dragon. Plus, I would think the the shape and size of a dwarf would make it really awkward for him/her to ride a dragon and fight at the same time. Dwarves are stone people, they like stone, they like being underground. They don't like being in the air all the time. (You can say the dragon can go underground too but then what's the use of the dragon?) So all in all, it just does to say, Orik is not going to be a dragonrider.
And yes, all this was probably already posted, though I'm too lazy to look back. And besides, I'm jsut helping with getting this topic back on track.. lol.
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Re: ONCE AND FOR ALL!!!!!!!!! orik cant be a rider
Quote: They don't like being in the air all the time. (You can say the dragon can go underground too but then what's the use of the dragon?) So all in all, it just does to say, Orik is not going to be a dragonrider. Did you even read what Orik says after they leave Tronjheim? He says that they don't mind living underground but they would rather prefer to live above ground. I'm not exactly sure what page its on but I know its in Eldest. But thats getting a bit off topic, im just glad that most people agree that Orik will NOT be a rider, no mater what anyone thinks.
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Re: ONCE AND FOR ALL!!!!!!!!! orik cant be a rider
Yeah, but buy the time CP finally finishes that last blasted book, I reckon Dwarves would have learned to love the skies and fly on hand gliders!
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Re: ONCE AND FOR ALL!!!!!!!!! orik cant be a rider
ha! yeah, hes taken forever, it'd better be a long book!!
i still doubt anyone but arya, or roran, will be a rider.
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Re: ONCE AND FOR ALL!!!!!!!!! orik cant be a rider
it better!
Orik cannot be the next rider, at the start of his first flight, Orik was scared. What rider could be scared? Plus all the points mentioned, I don't think CP will make Orik the next rider.
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