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I was trying to find a solid release date the other day and I found nothing. I was also thinking about how everyone assumed the third (at the time last) book was going to be empire following the pattern that CP must have accidentally started haha


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So then what do you think the book four title will be?

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there is a small probability that someone on this forum will guess the title, but i think it's the name of the land eragon and saphira will go to. Eldest and Brisingr were named after someone or something important at the end of the book. so the new land is something important and i think it will be described at the end of book four. if i am right, then i doubt anyone could guess the title, but if i am wrong there are still other possibilities like Eldunari, Empire, Greeny's name and so on.

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true but eragon isnt done growing in the cycle yet so it can be him and maybe arya bc she could make herself taller w/ magic

Arya is tall. in Eragon when he sees her in Farthen Dur he said she was taller than most men. eragon isn't tall. maybe he will bring back from the dead faolin or faolin will escape the vault of souls and the two on the ship could be arya and faolin and eragon the one screaming on the ground. remember it doesn't say eragon is on the ship. and maybe Greeny won't hatch for arya but for some other human/elf.


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Why would Eragon bring him back from the dead when he loves her?

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because he loves her and he wants her to be happy. i wouldn't if i were him... i would kill faolin in the spirit world so that there is no way the two of them could be together. but i am not eragon, he always wants to do what's right and what makes other people happy. and there is another possibility that some souls escape. faolin being one of them.


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I doubt that CP would have Eragon bring back Faolin and him and Arya will get together. You did give me an idea though. So going on the the idea that Arya loves Eragon too(I strongly believe this), Faolin could come back as a spirit and tell Arya to let him go and all that.

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Just to clear this up spirits in the book like the one's Eragon and Arya meet in the empire are deceased sentients as Arya kindly points out to Eragon. We are not told what they actually are but it's implied that the elves do know their origin.

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actually we were talking about souls, from the VoS, not spirits. i posted on the Rock of Kuthian topic my newest theory about the vault. it doesn't contain eldunaris but the souls and power of the gray folk.


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Sorry, I meant souls, not spirits. What kind of powers did the Grey Folk actually have?

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Not much is really known about them and I was wrong, the AL is their language. All we really know is that they have extreme magical abilities. They were able to stop an event that would have completely wipe out every race.

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Maybe the VoS will give Eragon the power the Grey Folk had. Very far fetched, I know.

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yeah but i think that would be the only power stronger than galby's. the Grey Folk bound magic to the AL. so in order to perform magic you have to know the ancient language and speak it. only after you become a master you can cast a spell without speaking. imagine what power they must have had to do that thing. i would say they were as powerful as the dragons only they could control their magic as they wanted.


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That is actually not true. Oromis tells Eragon that you do not have to say anything to use magic. The Grey Folk bound magic with their language so it would help.

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ruben-elda wrote:
only after you become a master you can cast a spell without speaking.


i did say you don't have to speak to perform magic....

“Eons ago, all magic was thus. To use it required nothing but the ability to sense magic with your mind—which every magician must possess— and the desire and strength to use it. Without the structure of the ancient language, magicians could not govern their talent and, as a result, loosed many evils upon the land, killing thousands. Over time they discovered that stating their intentions in their language helped them to order their thoughts and avoid costly errors. But it was no foolproof method. Eventually, an accident occurred so horrific that it almost destroyed every living being in the world. We know of the event from fragments of manuscripts that survived the era, but who or what cast the fatal spell is hidden from us. The manuscripts say that, afterward, a race called the Grey Folk—not elves, for we were young then—gathered their resources and wrought an enchantment, perhaps the greatest that was or ever shall be. Together the Grey Folk changed the nature of magic itself. They made it so that their language, the ancient language, could control what a spell does... could actually limit the magic so that if you said burn that door and by chance looked at me and thought of me, the magic would still burn the door, not me. And they gave the ancient language its two unique traits, the ability to prevent those who speak it from lying and the ability to describe the true nature of things. How they did this remains a mystery."

that is what happened with the spell.


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Masters don't use magic without speaking. If you remember Oromis's teachings, he says that not even masters do it because it is so dangerous.

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i said that if you wanted you could cast a spell without speaking. IF YOU WANTED. of course you can just speak the word to perform magic. it's your choice. it's not imperative to do one way or the other.


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idk if its official that aryas the next rider but reguardless im just gonna say this now. Saying her magic is green is no proof what so ever that shes gonna be the next rider. the only thing cp has said about dragons picking a rider is they wait for the right person. but anyways if it is already confirmed that shes the next rider then this is pointless but whatever i had to throw this out there

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It it definitely not confirmed. I don't think anything will be confirmed until the book comes out (whenever that is.)

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when i get my hands on the book, i'll jump directly when greenie hatches so i'll know if it's arya or not. and then i'll jump at the end of the book to see if eragon and arya will be together and then i'll just read the book.


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I'm reading the whole book the moment I get it, and I'm not skipping(as much as I'd like too) or letting my brother anywhere near it!

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last year someone said that every book in the cycle is the last one plus half of it (page count). eldest for example is eragon plus half of eragon, brisingr is eldest plus half of eldest. imagine how long the forth book will be: brisingr plus half of brisingr.


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I'm still reading it all at once!

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ok, but as soon as i get my hands on the book, i'll tell everyone on the forum what happens with arya, greenie, tenga and everything i theorized about..


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I'm not going to be able to go on here until I read it. It's kind of mean, but I can't wait to say 'I told you so' to some people.

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It has just been released that Brisingr is now available with the first chapter of the fourth book.

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What??????????I've got to find a copy of that!!!!!

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holy smg!! :shock: :shock: if you do tell me what it says! :o

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I will!

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lol :lol: whoever gets it first should start a topic about what it says :)

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has anyone ever thought of eragon's children? let's say he will get married with arya and have kids with her... will their kids be immortal? i mean eragon and arya are both immortal, but eragon is still part human and humans don't live forever. i don't think his immortality will be transmitted(?) to his kids. maybe they will get old and die while eragon and arya live forever and watch all their kids die. :twisted:


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I don't think so. Remember, the elves changed Eragon too. Or it could be like LOTR and their kids will be given a choice.

(If you want to discuss LOTR Ruben, I made a topic.)

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eragon's kids would be really interesting. i'm very curious how the will be. brom was a rider, he was immortal, right, even though his dragon was dead, he was still immortal. so if he was immortal, then eragon would have been immortal or something like it without saphira's "help".

where is the LOTR topic?


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Well Selena was mortal, so Eragon might not have originally been immortal.

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Even so I don't think that is a kind of trait that can be passed down since you aren't born a rider.

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my theorys are::

angela is really selena in disguise. she is known in Ellesmeera, as mentioned briefly as a thought about the past in Eldest.
Book 4 will be either Erisdar, Eldunari, Exiled in the AH or Wyrda. Wyrda because Fate plays out. I personally believe in destiny, though.
Eragon is Exiled. Obviously.
The Rock of Kuthian is somewhere in Illerea (Urubaen).
The Vault of Souls is-DUH-on Vroengard.
Eragon the 1st's Eldunari will be inside the Vault of Souls.
AND WHY DO YOU ALL FORGET THIS ONE the Grey Folk will help him win.

We are assuming, of course, that Christopher does not Decide to make Solembum a fraud and have him be an agent for Galbatorix. Just Saying.

Speaking of which< Solembum and Maud will have children, too. Just a Random Spoiler. Will not give away my highly accurate sources of information.

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If Selena ever went to Ellesmera she would definitely be dead.

Why would the the RoK and Vault of Souls be at two places far away from each other? They are at the same location.

Galby has all of the Eldunari.

The Grey Folk are dead.

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Angela is not Selena. It just wouldn't be right and CP would be repeating himself.

Why would Eragon be exiled?

The RoK and the VoS are in the same place. Solembum said go to the RoK and speak your name to open the VoS.


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yeah, Selena can not be angela. brom must have recognized her. if not, she must have recognized him. so she isn't eragon's mother for a dozen reasons i'm too lazy to write.

What is Erisdar? and i doubt any of us guessed the name of the book as no one guessed the names of the other 2 books before they appeared.

i agree Eragon is exiled.

The RoK and the VoS are at the same location and i don't think they are in either one place you mentioned.

i think Bid Daum's HoH is too big to carry around so it won't be of any use to Eragon. i doubt Galby has it. and i, too think the Grey folk will somehow help Eragon even if they are dead.

i don't see any reason for which Solembum and Maud should have cubs. there are a lot of werecats out there. i don't think you have access to any spoilers. and i think you haven't even read chapter KING CAT.


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I think it is very debatable that the first Eragon's dragon even disengorged their heart. They were the first dragon in existence and I think Oromis said it took a long time for dragons to tell riders about them.

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I don't the VoS carries HoH at all.

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yeah, me too. and we don't even know that Bid Daum is dead. no one knows if eragon or his dragon died. i hope we'll find out more about them in book 4.


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I think that the first Eragon and his dragon are probably dead, but they may have traveled to other lands.

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maybe Bid Daum is so big that he got trapped in a cave and can't get out.


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I doubt that. I just had a what if moment. What if, I know it probably won't happen, but what if...Eragon dies?

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if you know it won't happen, why did you post that? Angela said he will live a very long or infinite life.. so he won't die. the only possibility is that he will die and come back from the dead.


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Actually E+A said that it probably won't happen not that it won't happen. You probably won't die by a random comet hitting you on the head, however if your really unlucky it may happen to you. Also as Oromis points out Angela is not infallible.

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What I'm wondering is if Angela was wrong. What if CP decided Eragon should die so his book would be one of a kind.

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i don't know if you guys noticed, but CP likes money so i don't think he'll kill eragon because that would upset a lot of fans.


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I've noticed, but he's taken a lot from other books and maybe he wants to do something that no other author has dared to do.

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he doesn't really strike me as the brave kind of man that takes chances and tries something new. besides this book is too much of a cliche to end differently.


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But it might be so much of a cliche that he wants to do something that's entirely his own. I doubt it will happen though, and I don't want it to.

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This just hit me while i was reading over some theories and i just have to write it down. what if the last egg doesnt hatch untill eragon kills galb and them becasue so far cp as klled off every character that had a chance at helping him kill galby. (Brom, Oromis, Glaedr) just to name a few

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May 19th, 2010, 2:48 am Profile
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Possibly, but that gave me an idea. What if Greenie hatches for someone that isn't extremely important and...dies.

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Its possible. probable no. i think it will be somebody that weve already met but i think after galby is dead though

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May 21st, 2010, 1:44 am Profile
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Yeah, I know. It's just with all the suspense I can't rule out these possibilities.

Do you know how much CP took from the Norse? He took a lot from their myths and the AL I think is based off the Norse language.

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I agree anythig at this point is possible.

And no i do not

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May 21st, 2010, 1:52 am Profile
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It's kind of creepy and annoying how he has control over everything in the book. He could make anything happen.

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Indeed that is but thats a cool aspect of writing.
and now we got off topic lol
but im still sticking with my theory. since anybody that had a chance at helping eragon kill galby has died i think the final egg wont hatch untill its all said and done

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I think it will hatch before the final showdown, but it might not because the dragon wouldn't be big enough.

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The original purpose of this topic was to discuss book 4 before we had a section. Since we now do, I will be locking this thread. Discussions can be found in this forum, such as the official "Fourth Rider" and "Eragon's True Name" topics which have the sticky marker below. :)

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